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Hello I am so excited to be in Israel and Tel Aviv for the first time and in the hotel where my name is everywhere if there's one thing I learned here so far it's that I do not know how to pronounce my own last name because I've had so many people correct me, so that's great, so I'm going to be talking today about forms are one of the worst parts of web development and application development doesn't matter if you're doing native developments or react or angular or anything they're just terrible, and I'm going to tell you why they're terrible and what we can do about it, so I am few years ago I wrote the foreign library and I really foreign library because I thought it was a good idea at the time I was playing around with real form and I saw that it didn't have everything that I wanted to do plus I was fresh to reactor sort of fresh, and I was coming from angular version one which actually had a really nice way of handling forms you just put the model of what you want to edit and the input or the controller buttons they handle it automatically, but I soon realized that writing a foreign library is a bad idea just ask Kent's odds just ask anyone who's written in the foreign library before so first the name was a bad idea I wanted it to be similar to Redux form, so I named it react Redux form which caused a ton of confusion in fact a lot of issues for Redux form were in my library and a lot of issues for react Redux form were in the Redux form repository, so it did cause a lot of confusion between react to Redux form and Redux form plus look at all those issues that's a sign of maintainer fatigue I just did not want to work with it anymore using strings like an angular version one was also a bad idea especially because you know now that I learned typescript or other people are using flow we just know that strings cannot be strongly tight in fact using Redux alone was a bad idea and there's are many reasons for this in I don't know if marks in the room I'm sorry but so using Redux for form state was a bad idea if you're using Redux that's totally fine but for forum state there are better options and here's why with Redux has this idea of a global store a global single atomic store that holds all of your data especially states that involves multiple components communicating with each other local state on the other hand has localized states where each part of the tree has its own local concern and in instead communicates via passing props or calling callbacks with parents components the problem is when you're using Redux you're still not fully using global this global atomic State because you might have third-party components such as this control which already has its own local states, so you still have state spread out through your app it's just a little less organized and less predictable than just having everything be local so Dan Abrams of course he was one of the creators of Redux I has stated himself that you should use React for ephemeral...